PTR, 2.3 и первые впечатления

[PIMPLE]

что там твориться?? какие новости с полей?))

[BviDpk]

PIMPLE, А какие могут быть новости. Вчера подписали фикс-патч. Бонусы на опыт не перемножались а складывались. Очереди никуда не денутся по крайней мере до действия бонусов и 4-го сезона.

[DimonamoN]

PIMPLE,

Skill of Nilfur Recipe - Reroll Set
We are going to be changing this recipe. The intent of the convert set item recipe is to help players who are trying to finish a set and getting redundant pieces. The intent is not to get 2 focus and reroll 1 repeatedly until it's perfect. As such changes will be coming before the feature launches to directly address this.
So having an expensive way to trade set pieces to friends outside of the 2hr window is still out?
There are currently several issues with this recipe. The one listed here is simply a bug and will be fixed, the other issue is that this recipe is being used to cheaply reroll items that are part of a two item set, that will be addressed as well.(Reddit)
On Invoker's Set
This change was made because the Invoker set was always intended to be a Crusader set. It was however designed in the vacuum of RoS development when thorns was intended to be a core mechanic for Crusaders. We have changed this to be a Crusader only drop because we intend to revist that set and redesign it to be a Crusader set. This change was simply made to reflect that down the line this set will not be usable by other classes. (Reddit)
Failed Recipes
If you attempt to cube an item you already have, you'll receive an error and your materials shouldn't be consumed in the process. (Reddit)
PTR Server Limitations
As I mentioned in regards to international hosting, we have limited resources available for the PTR compared to live servers. We've dedicated everything we can to them, but that does result in there being less capacity available. Combine that with every region trying to get access and the result is the queues you're experiencing.
I know it can be frustrating or disappointing to not be able to hop on, but full queues means we're getting exactly what we're looking for internally: lots of people testing and lots of data.
We'll be activating and deactivating the Legendary buff throughout the course of PTR, so check back in from time to time. Queues will vary based on time of day and buff availability.
So having an expensive way to trade set pieces to friends outside of the 2hr window is still out?
There are currently several issues with this recipe. The one listed here is simply a bug and will be fixed, the other issue is that this recipe is being used to cheaply reroll items that are part of a two item set, that will be addressed as well.(Reddit)

Kanai's Cube in Action

[video]

Rifts and GRifts
The new Torment levels increase the equivalent of 5 GRs each (instead of 3). T7 = GR30, T8 = GR35, T9 = GR40, T10 = GR45.
Rift Guardians in can drop up to 2 Greater Rift Keys. (T7 and above?)
Top Leaderboard times now snapshot a character’s gear/build/cube effects at the time of the clear, and this can be viewed on the rankings.
Elites in normal Rifts now drop orange progress orbs. (Not a bug, this time.)
Rifts are slower since monsters give less progress each. (A T6 Rift that took 2-3m before will take 4-5m now.)
Conduit Pylons are back to 30s duration, and their damage seems buffed also. (I was one-shotting everything on a GR48 with one.)
Urshi in Greater Rifts no longer has a Key Upgrade option, so there’s nothing to do but upgrade gems. (Rank up a bunch of Gem of Ease for the “no reqs” cube recipe?
Gems can not be upgraded unless you finish the rift within 15m. (Proactively removes the “Zerg through a way too high Grift just for LGem upgrading” exploit.)
There is no more 30 cooldown timer when you end a Rift by talking to Orek, so you can do Rift after Rift with no delay. Beware closing before you’ve picked up all the Shards. (This might be a bug, since it was in the last PTR as a bug.)

Bounties and Gameplay
There are lots more Bounties now, including Boss kills (Maghda, Seigebreaker, Act Bosses, etc) and a large blue glowing chest appears after the boss kill for bonus loots.
The “wrong way stupid” arrow shows up on the map after 1m (instead of 5m) on Bounties. Doesn’t always work to point to the stairs or dungeon you’re seeking.
DiabloWikiBandit Shrine! Rarely found in Adventure Mode only. It spawns a Goblin pack ~10 Goblins of assorted types appear at once.
Odious Collectors may drop Forgotten Souls (orange material).
Keywardens drop Infernal Machines directly (not keys).
Uber Maghda holds her invulnerable shield for a much shorter time.
Ubers drop up to 3 organs at once (T7-T10 buff?).
Hellfire Amulets have an inherent socket.

Kanai’s Cube and Items
Legendary and Set items produced via the Cube can be traded within the party just as if you’d found the item in that game. (Probably a bug that will be squashed.)
Blacksmith crafted items do not have level requirements. (And scale to the level of the character who creates them.)
Gem Essences required for the gem conversion are sold by Squirt the Peddler.
Cube Portal: Transmuting a Puzzle Ring opens a portal to The Vault. (There’s less gold and fewer drops than the Vault you find in-game.) Only once per game.
Cube Portal: Transmuting a Bovine Bardiche opens a portal to DiabloWikiNot The Cow Level, seen during the recent Third Anniversary event. Only once per game.
Ancient items have {{double brackets}} around their names in clan chat. (Screen below.)
In-Geom legendary sword now shows a buff icon when active.
Shenlong’s Spirit Monk set now shows a buff icon when active.
Crusader’s Steed Charge no longer passes through grates and fences.
Legendary items with displays that go longer than the screen can be scrolled down to view. (Some set items are very tall in the hover display.)

[BviDpk]

DimonamoN, Я так понял это дополнение к описанию 2.3? Я не понял про сокровищницу и коровий уровень. Туда можно попасть только один раз или после перезахода снова можно создать портал? И по количеству золота это скорее экскурсия?

Про очереди они того мнения - у нас есть нужное наполнение а не попали -нам очень жаль.
Ну хоть информацию обсудить.

[Inspirer]

Skill of Nilfur Recipe - Reroll Set
We are going to be changing this recipe. The intent of the convert set item recipe is to help players who are trying to finish a set and getting redundant pieces. The intent is not to get 2 focus and reroll 1 repeatedly until it's perfect. As such changes will be coming before the feature launches to directly address this.

Эх, было очевидно, что до лайва не доживет, но все равно обидно. Можно было бы идеальные булки заиметь, нужны были лишь ингредиенты и то не очень много.

[PIMPLE]

PIMPLE,

Skill of Nilfur Recipe - Reroll Set
We are going to be changing this recipe. The intent of the convert set item recipe is to help players who are trying to finish a set and getting redundant pieces. The intent is not to get 2 focus and reroll 1 repeatedly until it's perfect. As such changes will be coming before the feature launches to directly address this.
So having an expensive way to trade set pieces to friends outside of the 2hr window is still out?
There are currently several issues with this recipe. The one listed here is simply a bug and will be fixed, the other issue is that this recipe is being used to cheaply reroll items that are part of a two item set, that will be addressed as well.(Reddit)
On Invoker's Set
This change was made because the Invoker set was always intended to be a Crusader set. It was however designed in the vacuum of RoS development when thorns was intended to be a core mechanic for Crusaders. We have changed this to be a Crusader only drop because we intend to revist that set and redesign it to be a Crusader set. This change was simply made to reflect that down the line this set will not be usable by other classes. (Reddit)
Failed Recipes
If you attempt to cube an item you already have, you'll receive an error and your materials shouldn't be consumed in the process. (Reddit)
PTR Server Limitations
As I mentioned in regards to international hosting, we have limited resources available for the PTR compared to live servers. We've dedicated everything we can to them, but that does result in there being less capacity available. Combine that with every region trying to get access and the result is the queues you're experiencing.
I know it can be frustrating or disappointing to not be able to hop on, but full queues means we're getting exactly what we're looking for internally: lots of people testing and lots of data.
We'll be activating and deactivating the Legendary buff throughout the course of PTR, so check back in from time to time. Queues will vary based on time of day and buff availability.
So having an expensive way to trade set pieces to friends outside of the 2hr window is still out?
There are currently several issues with this recipe. The one listed here is simply a bug and will be fixed, the other issue is that this recipe is being used to cheaply reroll items that are part of a two item set, that will be addressed as well.(Reddit)

Kanai's Cube in Action

[video]

Rifts and GRifts
The new Torment levels increase the equivalent of 5 GRs each (instead of 3). T7 = GR30, T8 = GR35, T9 = GR40, T10 = GR45.
Rift Guardians in can drop up to 2 Greater Rift Keys. (T7 and above?)
Top Leaderboard times now snapshot a character’s gear/build/cube effects at the time of the clear, and this can be viewed on the rankings.
Elites in normal Rifts now drop orange progress orbs. (Not a bug, this time.)
Rifts are slower since monsters give less progress each. (A T6 Rift that took 2-3m before will take 4-5m now.)
Conduit Pylons are back to 30s duration, and their damage seems buffed also. (I was one-shotting everything on a GR48 with one.)
Urshi in Greater Rifts no longer has a Key Upgrade option, so there’s nothing to do but upgrade gems. (Rank up a bunch of Gem of Ease for the “no reqs” cube recipe?
Gems can not be upgraded unless you finish the rift within 15m. (Proactively removes the “Zerg through a way too high Grift just for LGem upgrading” exploit.)
There is no more 30 cooldown timer when you end a Rift by talking to Orek, so you can do Rift after Rift with no delay. Beware closing before you’ve picked up all the Shards. (This might be a bug, since it was in the last PTR as a bug.)

Bounties and Gameplay
There are lots more Bounties now, including Boss kills (Maghda, Seigebreaker, Act Bosses, etc) and a large blue glowing chest appears after the boss kill for bonus loots.
The “wrong way stupid” arrow shows up on the map after 1m (instead of 5m) on Bounties. Doesn’t always work to point to the stairs or dungeon you’re seeking.
DiabloWikiBandit Shrine! Rarely found in Adventure Mode only. It spawns a Goblin pack ~10 Goblins of assorted types appear at once.
Odious Collectors may drop Forgotten Souls (orange material).
Keywardens drop Infernal Machines directly (not keys).
Uber Maghda holds her invulnerable shield for a much shorter time.
Ubers drop up to 3 organs at once (T7-T10 buff?).
Hellfire Amulets have an inherent socket.

Kanai’s Cube and Items
Legendary and Set items produced via the Cube can be traded within the party just as if you’d found the item in that game. (Probably a bug that will be squashed.)
Blacksmith crafted items do not have level requirements. (And scale to the level of the character who creates them.)
Gem Essences required for the gem conversion are sold by Squirt the Peddler.
Cube Portal: Transmuting a Puzzle Ring opens a portal to The Vault. (There’s less gold and fewer drops than the Vault you find in-game.) Only once per game.
Cube Portal: Transmuting a Bovine Bardiche opens a portal to DiabloWikiNot The Cow Level, seen during the recent Third Anniversary event. Only once per game.
Ancient items have {{double brackets}} around their names in clan chat. (Screen below.)
In-Geom legendary sword now shows a buff icon when active.
Shenlong’s Spirit Monk set now shows a buff icon when active.
Crusader’s Steed Charge no longer passes through grates and fences.
Legendary items with displays that go longer than the screen can be scrolled down to view. (Some set items are very tall in the hover display.)

О Великий Ангирский Совет сколько же много букоффф=)))))

[Anli]

Как же завидно, я тут в Питер свалил на неделю по работе, и даже не зайти на птр=/
Остается только читать форум и негодовать

[BviDpk]

PIMPLE, заканчивай чистописание переходи к чисто читанию.

Anli, Тут многие и дома наравне с тобой.

[Meier Link]

DimonamoN, Я так понял это дополнение к описанию 2.3? Я не понял про сокровищницу и коровий уровень. Туда можно попасть только один раз или после перезахода снова можно создать портал? И по количеству золота это скорее экскурсия?

На сколько мне известно, будет (или добавится) новый способ попасть туда. В сокровищницу с помощью кольца головоломки, в коровник с помощью этой алебарды, которая коров призывает. Предметы, по идеи, уничтожаются.

[BviDpk]

Meier Link, Так это сразу было описано. Из датамайна еще.

[Maxsh96]

Как же завидно, я тут в Питер свалил на неделю по работе, и даже не зайти на птр=/
Остается только читать форум и негодовать

Надо было перед отъездом в очередь встать, вернулся и не так долго осталось бы ждать

[DimonamoN]

Anli, ради Санкт-Петербурга можно много чего пропустить

[TVirus]

Anli, ради Санкт-Петербурга можно много чего пропустить

Люто плюсую.

[Overlord]

DimonamoN, ради ПТР можно пропустить Санкт-Петербург

К слову об ачивках: нужно еще давать: "не пытался войти на ПТР"

[Inspirer]

DimonamoN, В другое время года я бы возразил, но сейчас погода отличная, так что да, птр можно и пропустить.

Но мы не ищем легких путей

[PIMPLE]

Провел в режиме ожидания ПТР сутки=))) Achievment
хорошо что не я))

[DimonamoN]

PIMPLE, и поощрительная: "не выключал комп 24x7, но так и не зашел"

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[BviDpk]

Включил пару сообществ и зашел Т8. Игра оказалась пустой. Ни куба ни поручений. Но побегал рифты. Не считая бонусов за т8 рифт - 87кк. за 50ВП 425кк(награда при сдаче). Не густо. В ВП50 тупо не хватает урона. Поскольку куба не было бегал в том что и на лайве. Выживаемости достаточно даже при стопе. Ни разу не упал. Шкала наполняется вровень одна с другой. Кондуит выручил но недостаточно.Надо увеличивать урон. Про бонусный хлам молчу. За все время все или на месте или в пыль.

[Inspirer]

BviDpk, Просто они переборщили с необходимым количеством убийств для заполнения полосы. Это конечно попытались компенсировать уменьшением хп босса, но даже этого не достаточно, переборщили с требованиями. Но жить действительно стало значительно проще, враги ватные какие-то, большие груши для битья.

[BviDpk]

Inspirer, если раза в 2 увеличить урон(а это реально с кубом для вара) то будет думаю нормально. Фастран 50+ звучит.

[Inspirer]

BviDpk, Так проблема не в этом, понятное дело, что куб позволяет заметно улучшить результаты. Просто одним и тем же барбом в 2.2 и в 2.3 совершенно по-разному закрывается один и тот же портал. На лайве я более или менее стабильно могу закрывать 50 порталы с запасом в несколько минут, а на птр все 3 попытки были неудачными, не хватало времени. И это при том, что играть стало проще из-за понерфленного урона врагов. Бред же.

[BviDpk]

Inspirer, согласен. Дико выглядит. А куб скоро вообще нельзя будет получить. Игры аочти не закрываются
И плюс опыт за закрытие уменьшили

[TitanRU2138]

когда удается зайти в игру на стриме от 100 до 300 зрителей я офигиваю

[BviDpk]

TitanRU2138, весьма рад твоему возвращению. А после такого затишья это естественно

[Legatus]

На ПТРе я конечно не играл, но ветку прочёл. И как мне кажется, весь фарм теперь будет сводится к игре в рандом с кубом ! Что-то Метёлка здесь недосмотрела Ну посудите сами, с кубом получается выбил одну легендарку, зароллил ее в древнюю + даже краповые шмотки с комплекта методом конвертации превращаются сначало в нужные вещи из комплекта, а потом таким же образом в древние Результатом этого, как мне кажется станет одевание персонажа во всё древнее всего за день с небольшим (ну при условии что вся база забита лег аффиксами для куба). Т.е в игре спокойно можно оставлять либо только режим ХК, либо клипать сезоны каждый месяц, т.к я не представляю что делать софту при наличии куба по несколько месяцев в сезоне. И да, я конечно понимаю что ингридиенты для перековки не падают с неба просто так и их нужно выбивать, но неужели теперь всё будет построено на поручениях для получения ингридиентов для куба со множеством сплит фармом ? Что скажите форумчане ?